PaweĆ Pawlikowski, master of the 90-minute movie, returns with 'Fatherland'
NEW YORK (AP) â Storytelling economy can be in short supply at the movies, but PaweĆ Pawlikowski has made a career out of a concision that now seems almost radical.
His last three films â âIda,â âCold Warâ and his latest, âFatherlandâ â are all 90 minutes or less. Each is shot in black and white, in a boxy academy ratio. And none has a single ounce of fat on it.
âIt feels a bit controversial what Iâm doing,â Pawlikowski says, chuckling. âIâm quite aware that itâs provocative to be so stripped down.â
In an era where three-hour movies are commonplace, Pawlikowski, the 69-year-old Polish filmmaker, has refined a style of less is more. His movies are brief but unhurried, lean yet profound.
âYou try to distill it, distill it, distill it,â he says.
That approach has made Pawlikowski a leading international filmmaker and a hero to lovers of short movies. âIdaâ (2013), about a Polish woman who finds out sheâs Jewish just as sheâs about to become a nun, won the Academy Award for best international film. âCold Warâ (2018), about a doomed romance in postwar Poland, won him best director at the Cannes Film Festival and an Oscar nomination for best director. âFatherland,â too, won him best director in Cannes in May.
A postwar Germany, divided between âStalin or Mickey MouseâIn the 82-minute film, which Mubi releases in select theaters Friday, Hanns Zischler plays the German Nobel Prize-winning novelist Thomas Mann and Sandra HĂŒller his daughter, Erika. In the aftermath of World War II, they take a road trip through the ruins of Germany. Theyâre itinerant in their home country, traveling between U.S.-controlled Frankfurt and Soviet-controlled Weimar.
âStalin or Mickey Mouseâ is how one character frames the choice before the Manns in a Germany beginning to reckon with, or forget, the past. For Pawlikowski, itâs a dichotomy with shades of todayâs political divisions. In Poland, âIdaâ was criticized by right-wing nationalists who said it showed the country in a bad light.
âThere was an election campaign going on, and it was a bad time to show it,â Pawlikowski says. âBut it wasnât just the right that attacked. It was attacked for being antisemitic. All these people can be struck in their narratives and find something in your film that they hate.â
âArt is good for you, but itâs not going to solve any problems,â he adds.
Cutting scenes and maintaining rhythmThe value art has next to political power is at the center of âFatherland.â Mann, having fled to America to escape the Nazis, is being courted by both the West and the East. Meanwhile, former Nazis are returning to society and advancing their own view of Germany.
Pawlikowski began by taking real events and condensing them. Mannâs trip was with his wife, not his daughter. They visited more places over a longer period of time, but Pawlikowski limited himself to two cities and five days.
That was only the start of Pawlikowski paring things down. Whatâs most missing in âFatherland,â you realize afterward, are the transitory moments that lead into or out of a scene.
âYou donât need the scenes that get you from A to B. Just have strong scenes side by side. They will function regardless,â Pawlikowski says. âThe main thing is that it has music and a good rhythm.â
Unlike his somber, terse movies, Pawlikowski is chatty, self-deprecating and quick to laugh. He likes to shoot for five days in a week, have a day off and spend the other day editing â a part of the process usually not begun until after production is over.
âPeople say, âOh your scripts are so well done,ââ he says. âThe ideas are there and thereâs a beginning and a middle and an end. But actually, itâs the luxury of being able to write and rewrite all the time and sometimes shoot something else and scrap another thing.â
For HĂŒller, doing more with less dialogueReshoots for larger productions can be costly. But on âFatherland,â it was easier.
Pawlikowski kept two locations, hotel rooms, dressed for shooting, just in case. He originally had a big emotional scene when Erika finds out her brother died and meets up with an Associated Press reporter character named Betty (Anna Madeley). After looking at it, he decided to reshoot the scene with Erika, feeling overwhelmed with grief, simply opening her window and screaming at loud Germans on the nighttime street below.
âI looked at it and wondered, âMaybe Bettyâs not the thing. Maybe she should just be alone with her memory of Klaus and take it out on the poor Nazis,ââ says Pawlikowski.
The result is one of the standout moments in HĂŒllerâs otherwise restrained performance. HĂŒller, whose remarkable 2026 has also included the films âProject Hail Mary,â âDiggerâ and âRose,â suspected going into âFatherlandâ that Pawlikowskiâs precision would heighten her scenes.
âIt has a lot to do with presence and awareness,â HĂŒller says. âAnd with a rich inner movement thatâs not necessarily seen on the outside. But you can feel it, in some way. The more precise this inner movement is, the better it works in that very precise (camera) frame. Thatâs something I had to find out.â
Still, there was dialogue HĂŒller loved that she had to accept being cut.
âThere was one line where Sandra said, âOh, I love that line,ââ says Pawlikowski. âOK, but youâre never going to miss it because what we have has such a beautiful flow to it. Just because itâs a clever line doesnât mean we have to have it.â
For Pawlikowski, paring away isn't just an aesthetic. It's a way of life.
âIâm all into simplifying life, anyways,â he says, smiling. âStick to your friends. Like what you like. Try to be honest. If you can do that in film, or any kind of art form, it helps. And you feel youâre within yourself.â